In this Veteran's Day episode, Journalist and professor Tom Nichols joins hosts Heidi and Joel Heitkamp to discuss current leadership at the Pentagon and Justice Department, the state of American democracy, and Republican foreign policy shifts.

Listen to gain insight into the impacts of political loyalty, leadership challenges, and shifts in military and governmental norms. You'll learn how these changes affect America’s standing in the world and the daily lives of rural communities.

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• (00:00 ) - Tom Nichols describes how he sees himself as an Old-School Conservatism
  


• (12:11 ) - Tom Nichols discusses Trump's fascination with the military
  


• (18:10 ) - Heidi and Joel discuss with Tom Nichols how Trump's reelection diminished worldwide trust
  


• (28:17 ) - Joel, Tom Nichols and Heidi discuss how Democrats are acting as gutless leaders
  


• (39:29 ) - Joel points out that if he's in a dogfight, he wants to be able to bark back